"Freedom of Speech"

balance_else_complacent SG

There is no freedom of speech anywhere in the world.

If there is this so called freedom, we would have racists holding rallies aganist the "race" they hate.

and you are justifying for ??? justifying what???

a gun can protect you, so legalise it?

freedom is what u have to fight for.

with money and power, many in many countries can dictate many things.

so people have to fight for their own freedom , something not given to you for free. when someone can control you, why do you think he would let go of this power? if let go, he is no body.

redDUST SG

that's why i said FOS is a myth in the first place. in reality, there is no such thing.

when america prides itself and say it is a free country, is it really `free' in every sense of the word? that one can rape, pillage and steal to one's heart's content because america declares itself `free'?

FOS in reality is relative when it is used and applied.

let's have a dose of realism here when we discuss this. if one insists on discussing FOS in its theoratical context, then i rest my case.

redDUST SG

Mr Johnson said:

"If people feel they want to protest peacefully I support their right to do it.
"Freedom of Speech is a fundamental right we should always defend."

even in this sentence above which the TS quoted, FOS is already conditional. no prizes for guessing which word it is.

ray245 SG

Come one, freedom of speech isn't that good all the time.

Freedom of speech can allow a biased news reporting to take place, because the media will have freedom of speech as well.

You think improving freedom of speech means more people will be more clever towards any news source reporting?

And just a side note, freedom of speech also means people have the freedom to be dumb, and worst, start to spread their stupid beliefs towards others, even if it is a dumb idea.

Poh Ah Pak SG

and worst, start to spread their stupid beliefs towards others, even if it is a dumb idea.

There should be regulation regarding abuse of this right.

redDUST SG

There should be regulation regarding abuse of this right.

hehe, then the purists will say this is not FOS.

Poh Ah Pak SG

Actually freedom of speech can be easily abused, so there should be punishments to deal with that.

That is my view.

googoomuck SG

From an anonymous Dane:

We apologise, we apologise

We apologise, because we gave you housing and help

We apologise, because we give you an education

We apologise, because we help you economically

We apologise, because we let you worship your god in our Christian country

We apologise, because we send help to your countries

We apologise, because we don't claim bloody vengeance for the murders of our countrymen by the hands of Muslims

We apologise, because we don't strut around with explosives strapped to the body, when we feel insulted

We apologise, because we don't just do what your faith dictates

But an apology for expressing ourselves in our own country and after our own rules – that you will never have

hloc SG

Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:

Actually freedom of speech can be easily abused, so there should be punishments to deal with that.

That is my view.

The problem is that if some sort of punishment is waiting for a speaker...... then that would hardly be true FOS.

A better question would be - "How could we ensure the speaker will be respondsible for what He/She is talkin about".

justdoit77 SG

Actually freedom of speech can be easily abused, so there should be punishments to deal with that.

That is my view.

agree.
We should allow people to voice out, we wouldn't know whether they will abuse this right or not.
If the authority think that their speech violate the laws, then take action.

hloc SG

Originally posted by justdoit77:

agree.
We should allow people to voice out, we wouldn't know whether they will abuse this right or not.
If the authority think that their speech violate the laws, then take action.

But you do see the irony right...... if the authority deems your speech to have violated some laws, but you Disagree...... won't we have come back to square one

The problem is we don't always agree with the 'Authority' on what is OK or NOT OK to talk about.....

Think about this..... go to 'Speaker Corner' near Chinatown, sign a simple form and show your IC. Follow the rules on what could or could not be said..... then you could also talk there as much as you wants..... But is that what we are aiming for

Eddie Lee SG

Don't believe everything that you read in Pravda.

Freedom of Speech is alive and well in the United States.

People routinely protest the actions of their President, their government in general, the war in Iraq, Muslim extremists trample the American flag. And even racists are allowed to spew their ignorance and parade in street. Of course ignorant racist people are a minority always outnumber by counter protesters.People are only arrested when the cross the line and break the law. Protesting China or the Olympics is not illegal. Interfering with the torch procession is illegal. And many people were arrested for that.

I have a lot of issues with the United States. But the right for people to express themselves is not one of them.

When China, North Korea, Vietnam, Laos, and Cuba allow their citizens to speak their mind. Then you can tell me how wonderful communism is

PRP SG

There is rthe ight for freedom of speech under our constitution.But of course there is a limit to that freedom under the law.One can't say something which is contrary to the regarding law.I believe most of us know what those law are.

PRP SG

Do u think the topic "LKY, when are u going to die?" should be allowed?

Colby SG

in North Korean language Tibet is called 서장(西藏,the Chinese way)but in south Korea it's called 티뱃(Tibet,the English way)S.Korea is just a dog feeded by U.S.A.

ray245 SG

Don't believe everything that you read in Pravda.

Freedom of Speech is alive and well in the United States.

I have a lot of issues with the United States. But the right for people to express themselves is not one of them.

When China, North Korea, Vietnam, Laos, and Cuba allow their citizens to speak their mind. Then you can tell me how wonderful communism is

Ah yes....US is a country where freedom of speech allows people to be dumb....evolution? Not accepted in some areas because people have the right to voice out what they THINK is correct, as compared to what IS correct.

Then another half of the US is controlled by their 'free' media. (They belived in whatever the media is telling them is true, nevermind if the media is telling lies or reporting in a biased tone.) How many people can even realise that fox news isn't a reliable source for information for instance? Fox news is like several times worse than any other media outlet.

If you thinks that mediacorp is biased, wait till you see fox news.

Shotgun SG

Question is, where do you draw the line between responsible freedom of speech. Running into the airport shouting "bomb!" is obviously an irresponsible exercise of freedom of speech. Of course as everyone will say, thats obviously wrong! What an idiotic question. But when we change the contents of what its said and slide it away from the "Extremes", where exactly do we cross the mark that indicates "responsible" freedom of speech?

PRP SG

Right: Argue rationally and speaking honestly.

Wrong: Speaking dishonestly, insulting others and using vulgar words.

Shotgun SG

Right.. I do not wish my freedom of speech wrt profanities. I do not wish to lose my freedom to joke as well, since most jokes are untrue.

So, where do we draw the line?

rokkie SG

freedom speech is good ,it enhance communication ,decrease mutual communication barriar ,and clear mis understanding.But don't go to extreme.

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